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hearings on the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi and said if you nominate susan rice to be secretary of state, they will do everything in their power to block her nomination as senator graham said, he simply doesn't trust ambassador rice after what she said about benghazi. i would like your reaction to that and would those threats deter you from making a nomination like that? >> well, first of all, i'm not going to comment at this point on various nominations i'll put forward to fill out my cabinet for the second term. those are things that are still being discussed. but let me say specifically about susan rice, she has done exemplary work. she has represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. as i said before, she made an appearance at the request of the white house in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discuss
the reputation of his united nations ambassador susan rice. much more cautious comments from the president about the david petraeus scandal and the fbi's investigation. we're covering all the angles of his first news conference since the election. and israel retaliates for rocket attacks with deadly strikes and extremist targets. now hamas is warning that the gates of hell have been opened. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> eight days after his re-election, president obama faced reporters in the midst of an unfolding scandal and with a potential economic crisis holding over his head. but he only got riled up when he responded to republican criticism of his united nations ambassador susan rice. more on that coming up. standby. but first, the president's careful responses about the investigation of this former cia chief david petraeus and on negotiations to avoid what's called the fiscal cliff. our white house correspondent jessica yellin was over at the east strip of the white house. you had a chance to speak to the president and ask him about that looming fiscal cliff. >> rep
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they got from the intelligence community to the ones they got from susan rice. the message today is much different. we're keeping them honest next >> a man convicted of plotting to bomb the new york city subways, the sentence and what he said at the hearing when we continue. >>> tonight's "keeping them honest" report. we're not offering our opinion or trying to play favorites and we're not supporting democrats or republicans as they do on other cable channels, finding the facts, the truth there's still value in that. the benghazi attack and the toned down message from one congressman today. republican congressman peter king, a member of the house intelligence committee. former cia director david petraeus testified about the attack before the committee today in a closed-door session and he did the same on the senate side. the retired general was on the hill for five hours. according to congressman king, petraeus told them the attack on benghazi was an act of terrorism committed by al qaeda, christopher stevens and three other americans were killed in that assault. five days after the atta
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. >> that leads us now to susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations who went on national television and said this attack in benghazi, libya, was probably because of this anti-muslim film. >> reporter: exactly. >> she had talking points, right? where did those talking points come from? did they come from petraeus and the cia, were they edited later by the white house, do we know? >> reporter: we don't know. you heard peter king was asked that specific question. according to him and some others, we still don't know exactly where the disconnect was, if you will, between what the intelligence community now says that they believed at the time and the talking points that ended up with susan rice that ended up on television that sunday afterwards. it still doesn't seem to be very clear. the reason why he is now the former cia director is because of the affair that david petraeus had. he resigned one week ago. the question is whether or not that would come up at all. he said it was addressed at the beginning and he regretted what happened and that they didn't really address it at all after
of susan rice's role, the confusing fact, we'll talk to senator mccain in a second so president obama took the opportunity to fire back directly at the senator. >> if senator mccain and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> well, senator mccain heard that remark. 73 minutes later took to the floor of the u.s. senate to respond. >> mr. president, four brave americans died. it has now been eight weeks and the american people have received nothing but contradictory statements from all levels of our government. this president and this administration has either been guilty of colossal incompetence, or engaged in a cover-up, neither of which are acceptable to the american people. >> keeping then honest, more than two months after the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, there are still some serious question
negligence or a cover up. today sep tor mccain took it a step further saying that because of susan rice's narrative role following the attacks, he and senator mccain would block any effort to promote ms. rice to secretary of state, should hillary clinton leave that post. president obama took the opportunity to fire back directly at the senator. >> if senators mccain and graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation, is outrageous. >> senator mccain heard that remark and 73 minutes later took to the floor of the u.s. senate to respond. watch. >> mr. president, four brave americans died. it has now been eight weeks, and the american people have received nothing but contradictory statements from all levels of our government. this president and this administration has either been guilty of colossal incompetence or engage ed d i
that the intelligence report went to susan rice other than what you named the consulate or dip the maic facility. what do you make of that? >> well, what is the issue that has been raised as a result of that? i think we all know the intelligence community had created the talking points that did come out about the incident that occurred. the purpose is to make sure that any information or that they would give to the media would not be classified. i think that's how a lot of these issues with the talking points started and the issue that's been raised in the last couple of days has been the issue of having al qaeda taken out of the talking points and putting extremists in there. my answer to that is that the analysts who would have made those different changes and you have the intelligence committee that is analyzed and they give it to the administration or us. what happened in that situation is there are some who have said that by taking the word al qaeda out and putting extremist that changed the content. i don't see it that way. i think extremist covers a lot of different individuals and not only ter
to susan rice obtained all the intelligence the intelligence community had. without going into detail, there were several reports clearly stating that al qaeda affiliated groups were involved in the attack and were very heavily involved in the attack and that did not make it into the talking points, did not make it into the final talking points that were given to congress or to susan rice even though they were in the original talking points. that's a real issue as to why that was taken out. and i just feel that there are still many unanswered questions as to who actually put the final version of the talking points together. that was not answered today. >> congressman king, you have been tough on susan rice based on the fact that she went out on tv and what she said but tonight it sounds like you're saying she wasn't given all the information that did exist within the intelligence community. we've just heard also barbara starr reporting that tomorrow, petraeus is going to say he felt it was a terror attack from the get-go but there were other strains of intelligence. is your problem le
of susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, who just a few days after the attack as you recall said violence on the u.s. consulate in benghazi began as a spontaneous protest against an anti-islam film. two top-ranking republicans are vowing to block rice's nomination if she is picked to be the next secretary of state. the president firing back with a rare flash of anger. >> senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> white house correspondent dan lothian, live from washington this morning. it's really nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> let's first talk about the fiscal cliff. the president said we could see a deal by next week. that may hinge on this issue with taxes. how are republicans responding to the president's remarks? >> well, you know, first of all, there does seem a willingness by republicans to find areas of agreement, to reach a compromise. but they are pushing back on the president's plan because they don't believe that a solution should lie in tax hikes for any americans, including the wealth
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to do everything in your power to block susan rice's nomination to be secretary of state if president obama nominates her. supporters say she was simply repeating the earlier assessment about the benghazi attack. a spokesperson confirmed in late september that we disseminated the information, and it was only later the intelligence assessment changed. do you not believe the dni? >> well, first of all, talking points came from the white house, not from the dni. but, second of all, it was obvious within 24 hours that the station chief from the cia said this was a terrorist attack. obvious to one and all that this was not a "spontaneous demonstration." in real time, they saw there was no demonstration. the -- ms. rice, i hope saw am -- ambassador rice i hope saw that immediately after she spoke, the head of the libyan national assembly, the president of it, said this was an al qaeda attack. everybody knew it was an al qaeda attack, and she continued to tell the world, through all the talk shows, that that it was a "spontaneous demonstration sparked by a video." that's not competence in my
. >> believe me, i'm the first to say i love a good sex scandal, but only if susan rice was involved, they would get to the bottom of that. >> what we're getting are these bits and pieces, self-serving leaks from aids, and others, and they still don't know. it's a hard story to report but we haven't shown much strain either. >> there are two things that work. one is david petraeus does have a press codery and he now has people anorthern mussily defending him. >> or not so anonymously in the case only sof columnists. >> in the case of sum. so you have him over here. how many witnesses before congress get to come and go without a picture? i mean that's the kind of bipartisan cooperation that could help with the fiscal cliff. but the other thing about the women is that, you know, we're dealing with a party planner with diplomatic immunity, you know, who seems to have gotten all kinds of, you know, generals courting her in a certain way because she raises funds for them. but this is a largerer than life person to cover. so you go there because she's a character. >> by the way york were r
has susan rice's back. that's his ambassador, the embattled u.s. ambassador to the united nations. initially she said that that september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi began as a spontaneous protest against an anti-islam film. well, now two top-ranking republicans are vowing to block her nomination if, in fact, she is picked to be the next secretary of state. that had the president very anger. here's what he said. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> white house correspondent dan lothian is in washington, d.c., this morning. let's start first, dan, before we get to the ambassador, the embattled ambassador, let's start with taxes. >> well, yes. you know, republicans pushing back on the president yesterday, because they don't want to see taxes raised, even on wealthy americans, because they believe that that will stifle economic growth and will hit those people who are the job creators. at the same time, there does appear to be this willingness to find areas of agreement, some compromise, and while
years ago. and now we will listen to what the president has to say about the argument over susan rice. >> if senator graham and senator mccain want to go after somebody, they should go after me, and i'm happy to have that discussion, but for them to gof a u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and simply making a prez sentation information she had receive and to besmirch her reputation is outrageo outrageous. >> if the president thinks that we are pick on people, he really does not have any idea of how serious this issue is. >> the benghazi battle turning into a hot issue. i will talk to one of the senators taking the president to task, kelly ayotte. but we will begin with the latest on the petraeus investigation. we are joined by suzanne, welcome back. >> thank you, piers. always nice to be here. >> here is my overview on the key characters. we now know who the fbi agent was who began this whole investigation, fredrick w. hu hmm fri who is a glorous name and he is through friends and colleagues of clearing himself of anything wrong, is that right? >> yes, a couple of sou
by the president. >> and in regards to susan rice, it was clear that she had nothing to do with the benghazi, and her only role was to go to the "meet the press" and repeat what she had been told by the intelligent services, and do you accept that part of the defense? >> piers, i think it begs the question. why would you go on every major sunday show, because you have tof affirmatively put yourself out there if you had nothing to do with it. you know you have a certain responsibility and you have to be able to tell the american people the truth, and i think that there are serious questions about it. we know that there was e-mails sent from the state department within hours to the white house identifying that ansar al sharia had claimed responsibility, a terrorist group, and for the administration to put her out there and also in her role as a u.n. ambassador, why are you putting me out there versus the secretary of state or the cia or even leon panetta. >> does this tell you it is cover-up or conspiracy? are we talking about a major cover-up that we are defeating al qaeda or simply just pret
when susan rice went on the sunday talk shows an said the attack grew out of a spontaneous demonstration against an antimuslim video. let's get right to the breaking report right now. barbara starr is at the pentagon. you've been breaking this. tell us what you're learning tonight about david petraeus' testimony on benghazi. >> i've spoken to a source close to petraeus, directly familiar with petraeus' thinking on this matter. petraeus, we are told, wants to go to the hill, set the record straight and tell everything he knows. he will start by saying indeed that he knew almost immediately after that it was ansar al sharia, but there was also confusion. he had about 20 intelligence reports linking the attacks to that video, that anti-islamic video. those reports were disproven, but not until after he had briefed capitol hill. all of this took some time to sort out. that's what he wants to lay out tomorrow. >> and barbara, if he knew, and i know you're saying there were conflicting reports, which we have heard before, but if he knew and he's going to say he knew almost immedi
first testified and briefed capitol hill and apparently after ambassador susan rice made those comments. >> that's why it's so significant, it also came after ambassador rice's appearance on the sunday shows, where she is now being grilled by john mccain and others. i'm talking to him in a few minutes. so it's very significant i think what general petraeus believed at the time. it does beg a belief, really, why would ambassador rice go on national television, having had a briefing we believe from the cia, which turned out to be flawed if the director of the cia right away knew this was an al qaeda affiliated group? >> yeah, you know, it's washington, isn't it. i mean, you know, the theory, what petraeus is expected to talk about is he had his talking points. he got them declassified, approved to go out there in public. when ambassador rice started talking from her talking points, this included other information that wasn't exactly what the cia thought might be really going on. i think some members of capitol hill have brought it down to this point, was the obama administration incredibl
that ambassador susan rice used. >> let me interrupt you for just a moment. john mccain is just emerged from the senate intelligence committee meeting. let's listen to what he has to say. >> ability to make judgments about what is clearly a failure of intelligence, and described the actions and that of his agency and interaction with other agencies and i appreciate his service and his candor. >> senator, senator. >> so as the senator walks away from the reporters who are amassed, he is with the armed services committee, so unlikely that he is has been able to be privy to the closed door meeting of the senate intelligence committee. i don't know, dana, can you shed light on that? i didn't get to hear what he said unfortunately. >> yes. he actually has been in the intelligence committee meetings, you're right. he is not a member officially of the intelligence committee any more and used to be and so there are privileges for people like him with his kind of seniority. they get to sit in on these intelligence meetings and he has been going to most if not all of these important meetings and inclu
they are picking on susan rice because she is a woman. but i do think these things are heating up so quickly that they better not get backed into corners that they can't get backed out of. >> the truth of the matter is that they have to have this meeting. they have to sit down and discuss things where the cameras aren't there. >> however, we know from history with this president and these congressional leaders that most of the real work is going to get done on the phone with the house speaker and the president and their aids. so that is the reality this is an opening gambit and probably not much more. i talked to a good source here asking do you think if she is nominated you do overcome a filibuster and the answer was yes. if anybody wanted to watch two old white guys beat up on a black woman i'll sell tickets to that. there is politics all around here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, let us know what you think about this. i'm tweeting about this already. up next why did the justice department keep the president in the dark about the petreaus scandal. plus the investigation of paula bro
's assessment, susan rice's assessment or your own assessment? >> i think what we first learned in the few hours and days immediately after the attack to today, the intelligence has evolved. certainly there was taking time to gather the information, to analyze it and put forward an assessment. what we do know is that when director petraeus came before us on the 14th, the information that he gave us was not the information that was put out by ambassador rice or by the administration. so it begs the question why wasn't a more complete picture given to the american public more quickly than it was? >> okay. you said that the intelligence has evolved, which means just from a layman's term, you would think that as they gathered information, they learned more than things would change. just from people sitting at home and not for partisans or for people who are on capitol hill, are you actually talk ing to each other about -- getting to the bottom of this or is everyone just talking at each other because i would imagine no administration wants anyone to die on their watch. >> certainly we are talking to
that has been very controversial coming out of these briefings, whether or not susan rice, the u.n. ambassador -- the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., had the proper information or was correct in what she said publicly about the attack being probably at that point four days after the attack because of a demonstration. democrats are really to a person coming to her defense aggressively and trying to explain why there was a discrepancy. listen to kent conrad of the democratic member of the senate health care community. >> what is very clear is that ambassador rice used the talking points that the intelligence committee had all signed off on. that is very, very clear. she used the unclassified talking points that were signed off on by the entire intelligence community, so criticisms of her are completely unwarranted. that is very clear. >> and susan, dianne feinstein, just moments ago actually took out and read the unclassified talking points that susan rice used on that day, and they were very short. it sounds like there were two, maybe three points in the talking points, and it was al
the killings in benghazi the u.s. ambassador to the united nations susan rice said what she said about the spontaneous reaction? >> well, i've always thought based on what we heard from the very start that there was a big disconnect between the information i thought i was looking at and what the president said yesterday they had. i thought the most interesting thing in the president's comments yesterday was that susan rice had all of the information they had and related all of that information. that just doesn't seem reasonable to me. if they did -- if that was all the information they had, i wonder why somebody at the white house wasn't asking more questions. and that may be the biggest question here as we go forward. >> are you with some of those republicans like senator mccain, senator lindsey graham who will do everything in their power to block her nomination as secretary of state if it goes forward? >> well, i think again, the question there is what did ambassador rice know? why is that what she knew? and why was she the person sent out to represent the administration? the presid
.s. -- united nations ambassador susan rice for the benghazi response. here is what the president said. >> as i've said before, she made an appearance at the request of the white house in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> okay. so it took senator john mccain about an hour to make it to the s senate floor to offer a response. >> that statement is really remarkable in that if the president thinks that we are picking on people, he really does not have any idea of how serious this issue is. >> seems like the testosterone-fueled rhetoric over benghazi is sort of getting out of control. former cia operative bob behr joins us this morning. good morning, bob. >> good morning. >> i want to make it clear to our viewers what lawmakers want to figure out. there are three separate hearings about to take place today. this is what they're trying to figure out. one, why didn't the united states increase security in libya? two, did the obama administration
politically charged controversy is over u.n. ambassador susan rice's comments five days after the attack. why she blamed it on benghazi demonstrations, officials now say didn't even happen. and why she didn't mention terrorist forces? intelligence officials now believe actually targeted the u.s. consulate there. democrats emerge saying the answer was simple, she was using these unclassified cia talking points which omitted mention of extremist elements because it was still classified and could have compromised intelligence sources. >> she used the unclassified talking points that were signed off on by the entire intelligence community, so criticisms of her are completely unwarranted. >> reporter: democrats accuse republicans of unnecessarily assassinating rice's character. >> to select ambassador rice because she used an unclassified talking point, to say that she is unqualified to be secretary of state i think is a mistake. >> reporter: but republicans say the problem is rice freelanced. >> she went beyond that. and she even mentioned that under the leadership of barack obama we have decimat
reporting says he's going to say and we've seen the cia talking points for susan rice,s as well, if he says listen immediately thought radical islamist group, same time there was intelligence that seemed to indicate that the video might have a role would that, would that explain to you what we now know about susan rice's testimony, which has become a big center of all of this, you know, talking certainly about, whether she's going to have a chance to be secretary of state, do does that make her position on "meept the press" five days later make some kind of sense? >> not to me. and everybody will have to judge that on their own. to me it still falls way short. we know, we know the events that happened. those are public, it's in the public domain. and to blame a video, i think, is offensive, not only to our own, you know, constitutional belief in freedom of speech, but just the idea that the administration would go out and blame a video, instead of what really happened, that this was a terrorist attack that killed four americans. so no i don't think it gets anybody off the hook for statement
around, widely expected that u.s. ambassador to the u.n. susan rice going to be secretary of state, that could be a very ugly confirmation hearing. and senator john kerry talked about as defense secretary, wolf? >> yeah, there's been reports that john kerry, who i always assumed wanted to be secretary of state could be the next secretary of defense leon panetta has made it clear he's ready to move on and go back to california after all these years in washington, former cia director, now the secretary of defense. i don't know how long that will last. but if kerry is nominated to be the secretary of defense, that does leave hillary clinton's job at the state department open. and susan rice was always -- at least i always believed she was the front-runner until those controversial comments she made about the benghazi killing of the u.s. ambassador and three other americans on those five sunday talk shows. and the republicans really have been going after her. and if the president stands firm and nominates her to be the next secretary of state, it will be a bruising confirmation hearing
, she accident go out them put out dr. susan rice are the u.n. ambassador. very interesting that today, president obama says, you know, susan rice had nothing to do with benghazi, i don't know what she was doing on the show. >> didn't she make her safe key player or a person put up by the administration to launch the defense. she could have said, we believe there are a number of possible theory sneers she didn't take that option. >> she was a good soldier did what the administration told her to do. she read the talking points. she had more -- >> did she act in good faith, do you think? >> i can't get inside her brain. i don't -- i think that she was repeating the intelligence and what the white house told her to say. what she was saying is similar to what everyone in the white house and the state department was saying at the time. so, i don't think that she was doing anything other than what she had been instructed to same the big question not whether this was one of the prominent theories, it was all a spontaneous protest from the anti-muslim video, it was, obviously, one of the promi
't there an interagency decision to not use al qaeda in the unclassified talking points that susan rice was using on the morning shows. but amy, do you believe at all that the election results are playing a part in this washington drama? >> i don't think so. i think benghazi is such a serious scandal and debacle in terms of american foreign policy that everyone wants to get to the answer, including senator dianne feinstein, the democrat from california. as far as those talking points go, it is not at all clear where they were edited. what we do know apparently is that the original determination that al qaeda was involved, or al qaeda affiliated groups was sent out the front door to the cia and went through some sort of editing process, perhaps interagency, perhaps at the white house that still hasn't been answered. what we do know is if the white house wanted to provide the answers, they could have done it before the election and chose not to. let's not forget, of course, general petraeus and his whole personal scandal, debacle, that could also be professional. we still don't know the answers to
, in a way it is new, ted, these officials are saying that there is support for secretary rice that is susan rice, the u.n. ambassador for the united states, for taking the position had she leaves of hillary clinton as secretary of state. and that name, susan rice, has been bandied about for quite a long time, but now, you know, the drumbeat is increasing and secretary clinton, remember, has said she will leave at the end of the term, that would mean january, but she's also indicated that she might stick around until the president is able to replace her and that would mean, of course, that the president would have to nominate someone and that person would a have to get through the senate. that's where the plot thickens because susan rice, as we all know, is part of this unfolding saga about benghazi and the attack that killed the u.s. ambassador and other americans in libya. so she has been blamed a lot, of course, for coming out and saying that those attacks, that attack was spurred by a video and then later on the administration said that it was terrorism. that could set her up for some re
with this term that could be fed to the public. susan rice said that this was what she was cleared to use when she spoke by television a few days after the attack. >> some people are calling this a cover-up, including white house aids of covering it up, someone removed the terror link from the talking points that was initially handed out. a did that happen, and if it did happen, why? >> how in this process of removing the specific names of these extremist groups including al qaeda affiliate, a local liberal group, was there any one individual or one agency that did this? this went through an interagency process in washington 1/2. it had to be signed off by various members of the white house, members of the nfc. the only words they changed along with the state department was changing the words to diplomatic facility in the -- from the mission. and so they had nothing to do with the intelligence assessment at all. so there's still some question of exactly where in this process that the names were changed to the more generic reference to terror. >> you're not in new york city, that skyline behind
that it was al qaeda. it's not really clear why that was taken out of the talking points given to susan rice. it might have been because they didn't want to tip them off that they knew it was going on. >> i get it. and the information is evolving. certainly the white house should have to be held accountable and answer questions if there is some difference in their messaging. that's certainly true. but, andrew, what administration wants people to die on their watch? no administration wants that. and it certainly appears that many people -- this is an ideological thing to many people. people are contorting themselves to try to make sense of some conspiracy theory and then when you look at it logically, you're like, really? are you kidding me? >> i think regarding benghazi, this happened several weeks before the election. and i think it's just been -- it's really been churned within the media and the political machine. we've lost a little bit of sense of proportion about it, i think, to some degree. >> and it's people who, quite honestly, don't like the president and don't like the white house
involvement in writing the talking points used by susan rice, the ambassador to the u.n. who said publicly the attack was spontaneous and it was sparked by an anti-muslim film. i know this is complicated, but stick with us here. the question remains, why didn't rice's talking points include the fact that this was a terrorist act and a planned one and all of that? listen. >> he said they went through a long process involving many agencies, talking to the justice of the state department, and no one knows yet who came up with the final version of the talking points other than to say the original talking points by the cia were different than the ones that were finally put out. >> national security council spokesman tommy veder says rice's talking points were produced by the intelligence committee, and that, quote, the white house and state department offered one edit changing consulate to "diplomatic facility" for accuracy. he was on the intelligence house committee and he was at the hearing with petraeus today. what do you make of all this? you know republicans were saying there were some kin
to the job. susan rice is another person who has been mentioned who has less kind of gravitas on capitol hill, compared to john kerry. my guess is president obama will try to find someone relatively comparable who can shine in the media, who can do well with members of capitol hill as they deal with the challenges abroad. >> the democrats kept control of the senate, wolf. it is slightly easier when he's talking about confirmees. but the benghazi dustup put a tarnish on susan rice. does that have a bomb ofpotenti more bruising confirmation fight? >> the television appearance, five sunday talk shows in which she said what she said and given how angry the republicans are on this whole benghazi thing, the accusations they're making and they're going after her directly, i don't know if the president wants to start off a second term with a bruising confirmation battle for susan rice. so from her perspective, i think it has hurt her. john kerry, he did a pretty good job helping in the debates. i think he's got a good shot at it. we'll see if anybody else emerges as a candidate. >> republican senator
right now some of the conventional wisdom says that u.s. ambassador to the u.n. susan rice even though she's embattled over her comments on benghazi, she may be the favorite for that role. so you've got some trial balloons floating around here. we know there are a couple deputies to the secretary of defense who are also being considered for the role. we'll have to wait and see exactly how it plays out. >> all right, brianna keilar, you have a full plate. >> yes. >> thank you very much. >> next hour we'll get reaction to general allen now being tangled in this scandal. nic paton walsh will join us with perspective there. >> and tom fuentes from the fbi will join us to talk about all this. >> then on "starting point," a man whose own sex scandal led to his down fall, former new jersey governor jim mcgreevey. jason chaffetz will way in and debbie wasserman shultz. >> man there is a lot going on today. you might not know this man. his software might be on your computer. john mcafee wanted for questioning now in a murder case. we'll have the details. >> another bizarre one. [ woman ] ring.
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